{"id":1223,"date":"2024-01-22T07:45:11","date_gmt":"2024-01-22T07:45:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/qpr.ca\/blogs\/physics\/?p=1223"},"modified":"2024-01-22T07:47:15","modified_gmt":"2024-01-22T07:47:15","slug":"wigners-friend","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/qpr.ca\/blogs\/physics\/2024\/01\/22\/wigners-friend\/","title":{"rendered":"Wigner&#8217;s Friend"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><b>If we define both the observer and the &#8220;observed&#8221; as both being part of say an even bigger system, would the wave function still collapse in this system?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>This conundrum is known as the Wigner\u2019s Friend problem, though it is also <a href=\"https:\/\/www.quora.com\/In-the-Schr\u00f6dingers-cat-thought-experiment-wouldnt-the-cat-itself-be-able-to-observe-whether-it-was-alive-or-dead-i-e-collapse-the-wave-function\">often asked<\/a> with reference to Schrodinger\u2019s cat.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/qph.cf2.quoracdn.net\/main-qimg-5b0fa1e750b0e5c791ac6bbc899a2f9c\" \/><\/p>\n<p>In my opinion its best resolution is in the understanding that the wave function or quantum state is not a property of the system itself but of its relationship to an observer, and I think this view is a better reading of what Hugh Everett was describing in his \u201cRelative State\u201d interpretation of quantum mechanics [which was re-presented later (mostly by others) as a \u201cMany Worlds\u201d interpretation where observations (and other interactions) continually cause the creation of new \u201cbranches\u201d (in a way that Everett himself apparently once described as \u201cbullshit\u201d in a marginal note on someone else\u2019s elaboration of the MWI)].<\/p>\n<p>Source: <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.quora.com\/Is-the-collapse-of-the-wave-function-in-Quantum-Physics-based-on-a-system-frame-of-reference-If-we-define-both-the-observer-and-the-observed-as-both-being-part-of-say-an-even-bigger-system-would-the-wave-function\/answer\/Alan-Cooper-5\">(1001) Alan Cooper&#8217;s answer to Is the collapse of the wave function in Quantum Physics based on a system frame of reference? If we define both the observer and the &#8216;observed&#8217; as both being part of say an even bigger system, would the wave function still collapse in this system? &#8211; Quora<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If we define both the observer and the &#8220;observed&#8221; as both being part of say an even bigger system, would the wave function still collapse in this system? This conundrum is known as the Wigner\u2019s Friend problem, though it is also often asked with reference to Schrodinger\u2019s cat. In my opinion its best resolution is &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/qpr.ca\/blogs\/physics\/2024\/01\/22\/wigners-friend\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Wigner&#8217;s Friend<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,4],"tags":[39,28],"topics":[40],"class_list":["post-1223","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-all","category-quora-answers","tag-measurement","tag-quantum","topics-measurement"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/qpr.ca\/blogs\/physics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1223","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/qpr.ca\/blogs\/physics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/qpr.ca\/blogs\/physics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/qpr.ca\/blogs\/physics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/qpr.ca\/blogs\/physics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1223"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/qpr.ca\/blogs\/physics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1223\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1224,"href":"https:\/\/qpr.ca\/blogs\/physics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1223\/revisions\/1224"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/qpr.ca\/blogs\/physics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1223"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/qpr.ca\/blogs\/physics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1223"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/qpr.ca\/blogs\/physics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1223"},{"taxonomy":"topics","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/qpr.ca\/blogs\/physics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics?post=1223"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}